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Post by tkarter on May 12, 2013 21:45:29 GMT -5
Got me to thinking. I know from experience that if you need a gun it will be a reactive fight. Not one you planned if you are the good guy.
I know what quick get off the spot you were standing in can do to save your life.
So if you have to be standing still to draw your gun to defend yourself then you aren't doing yourself any good by carrying a gun all the time.
That guy that walks up behind you at the ATM is going to be mean and most likely hurt you if you even look like you aren't going to give him your pin number. What I do believe if it is me that encounters this the bad guy isn't going to believe what he just chose to do. If he is close I am going on the attack. If he isn't close I am still moving smartly out while drawing my gun and if it I get it drawn I will be shooting.
So don't be tapping me on the shoulder while I am at the ATM LOL
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Post by ricco on May 13, 2013 15:03:02 GMT -5
By now I'm sure we have all seen this video, youtu.be/TD0Fms6krP4, it is a good example of movement vs non-movement. All the LEO moved except Detective Saavedra, Detective Saavedra was the only LEO shot. Saavedra did shuffle backward a few steps but bumped into a car and stopped and it was then he was shot 3 times. To his credit Saavedra was the first to engage Delgado (BG), Saavedra's courage is indisputable but his tactics were lacking. So as we see, movement has to serve a purpose. Movement, or more importantly, poor movement, in this case straight backward, is not only useless it could prove fatal. Movement has to serve a purpose, it has to take us off the the BG's muzzle or move us to cover. Saavedras movement straight backward did neither.
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Post by tkarter on May 13, 2013 18:40:11 GMT -5
With that car there the detective should have been running towards and to the bad guys left. it sucks to be the one out in the open when the bad guy has cover.
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Post by ricco on May 14, 2013 14:14:02 GMT -5
It all comes back to what we burn into our brain. We revert to what we have trained and practiced over and over again. Saavedra went into the stance he practiced, took a two handed grip, looked over the sights and moved straight backward. Just like he was taught and the way he qualified for years. When faced with a life and death threat he went on auto pilot, just like any of us would do. The flaws in Detective Saavedra's training became apparent. Some would say that if Saavedra's first shot had hit Delgado in a vital area rather the leg the fight would have been different. Possibly, but other than a hit to the brain stem, impossible to prove. We seen Delgado get hit in the leg and keep fighting. We seen Delgado get hit in the side and keep fighting. We seen Delgado get hit in center of the back and keep fighting. It was finally a head shot that put him down but not out as is seen in the longer version of the video. After a short time Delgado gathers himself and tries unsuccessfully to find his pistol so he can keep fighting.
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Post by tkarter on May 14, 2013 14:33:47 GMT -5
You have called that one right. Lookedto me like all of them emptied a mag.
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