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Post by dirtdiver on Mar 15, 2013 11:11:40 GMT -5
I'm confused (well, more so than usual! LOL!) - What is the difference between regular 00 buckshot loads for a 12ga shotgun and magnum 00 buckshot?
Basically what I'm wondering, 1. when would one want to use the magnums instead of the regular 00 buckshot and 2. can any 12ga shotgun shoot magnum loads, or can only certain shotguns?
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Post by tkarter on Mar 15, 2013 20:07:57 GMT -5
It is usually the difference in shot shell length. You can get 2 3/4 inch 00 loads 3inch 00 loads and 3 1/2 inch 00 loads.
When you want to use a 3 inch or 3 1/2 inch shell is when you feel like getting a nose bleed from the recoil.
Older shotguns only shoot 2 3/4 inch shells Like my Auto 5
My Mossberg 500 would shoot both 2 3/4 and 3 inch. I never liked 3 inch.
I have never shot a 3 1/2 inch so I don't know anything about that other than it will be loud and kick hard in all but the easiest semi auto shotguns.
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Post by eagle on Mar 17, 2013 6:07:23 GMT -5
Why 00 ?? I know a lot of people automatically say get 00 ...... but I don't agree with that at all. I use # 2 shot. Go out and shoot , or have someone shoot 00 and then some # 2 steel shot. See what size the hole is thru a steel plate with 00 , vs # 2 shot. You'll buy # 2 shot.... 6" hole.... vs a slug sized hole. Hummmm... you know which one I think would cause the most damage and why I'ld use # 2. Just my .02 cents. found this answer, take it for what it's worth : hunting.about.com/od/shotgun/l/aastshotgunfaqa.htmUnlike magnum centerfire rifle cartridges, which are usually faster than standard cartridges, magnum shotshells of all gauges are often slower than regular field loads. Use of the word magnum in shotshell terminology refers to a heavier shot charge and not necessarily an increase in speed. As examples, Remington's 12-gauge 2 3/4-inch Premier Magnum turkey load has 1 1/2 ounces of shot and a 1260 fps muzzle velocity rating while Remington's standard Game Load delivers 1/4 ounce less shot but is rated at a quicker 1330 fps. Moving on up in payload size, respective shot charge weights of the Premier Magnum loadings of the three-inch and 3 1/2-inch 12-gauge Magnum shells are two and 2 1/4 ounces respectively while their muzzle velocities are only 1175 and 1150 fps respectively. It all has to do with the maximum chamber pressures within which the ammunition makers must work, and when light and heavy shot charges are loaded to the same pressures, the latter will be lower in velocity. |
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Post by tkarter on Mar 17, 2013 11:06:55 GMT -5
Myself I prefer 4 buck.
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Post by dirtdiver on Mar 17, 2013 17:07:26 GMT -5
The rest of the story.....a couple years ago I accidentally bought some remington magnum 00 buckshot, not realizing it said 'magnum' till quite a while later. I put it to the side to check on whether it was safe to use in our rem 870 or not, but forgot about it till I stumbled on it last week.
So, I've already got it, but just don't know if it would produce pressures too high in our shotgun since it is a magnum load. They are 3" shells, I know that's ok, but the whole 'magnum' thing has me wondering.
As a side note - we keep 00buckshot in our HD shotgun - usually federal tactical, but we have some zombiemax too now b/c I found some at a real good price a couple months ago. For the fun of it tho....I might try your #2 shot versus 00 buckshot one of these days and post some pics. I like doing those kind of experiments! I've been wanting to pattern the zombie loads versus the federal loads anyway.
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Post by tkarter on Mar 17, 2013 17:37:57 GMT -5
If your 870 has a 3 inch chamber it will be just fine to shoot it. Hang onto it good.
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Post by tpd223 on Jul 4, 2013 0:27:12 GMT -5
Many 3" mag 12 gauge loads have more recoil than a heavy go hunting in Africa rifle. Seriously. I see no reason to choose magnum shotgun ammo for defensive use.
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Post by ricco on Jul 4, 2013 8:59:25 GMT -5
I don't remember the formula they used but I remember reading in a gun magazine that a 30-06 has about 20 ft lbs of recoil and a 3 inch magnum 12 gauge has about 50 ft lbs of recoil. I remember, because at the time I owned both.
To the question, my opinion, there is little to be gained using magnums for self defense. I like low recoil buck. If you were to be facing one opponent a magnum would work okay, but multiple opponents, the slower return to target time would be hindrance.
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Post by tkarter on Jul 4, 2013 10:57:21 GMT -5
Many 3" mag 12 gauge loads have more recoil than a heavy go hunting in Africa rifle. Seriously. I see no reason to choose magnum shotgun ammo for defensive use. I agree with this. In fact I see no reason to choose them for any use. The game sure don't know what shot hit them. But the 870 Remington will handle the 3 inch mags or even 3 1/2 inch mags fine if it is chambered to do so. 3 inch mags out of a short barreled shotty is going to be meaner than the guy you have to shoot. IMHO |
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Post by eagle on Jul 5, 2013 23:35:04 GMT -5
I don't remember the formula they used but I remember reading in a gun magazine that a 30-06 has about 20 ft lbs of recoil and a 3 inch magnum 12 gauge has about 50 ft lbs of recoil. I remember, because at the time I owned both. To the question, my opinion, there is little to be gained using magnums for self defense. I like low recoil buck. If you were to be facing one opponent a magnum would work okay, but multiple opponents, the slower return to target time would be hindrance. I think that some very good points, especially if you need to shoot rapidly on multiple targets. |
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